Rhee, Stargel Got Some ‘Splainin’ to do About Those Parent Trigger Petition Signatures

NEW Tuesday morning update here (600AM CDT)

Monday morning update here.

MIAMI HERALD: On Sunday, The Herald/Times sent an email to each person who had allegedly signed the online petition. Of the 241 who responded, 212 confirmed their signatures…….But 29 people said they had not signed the petition

(Updates as responses arrive continuing here)

(Done with updates for the night. Still receiving emails and analysis of email list is still evolving. Look for another story from Kathleen McGrory in the morning – Bob Sikes)

UPDATE: A second person and third person – now four total – who contacted this blog indicating they’d never signed Rhee’s petition also appear twice. All originally on 3/21 and the again during the same small window between 3/29 and 3/30.

UPDATE: A  Sarasota woman who responded to both the Herald and this blog – and an opponent of parent trigger – has her name appear once on 3/21 and again on 3/29.

UDATE (856PM CDT) Five separate spam attacks have now been attempted as comments to this post

UPDATE: (800PM CDT) 11 signatures are from out of state. One appears twice as they signed once on 3/21 and again on 3/30

UPDATE (742PM CDT) There are 101 repeated names on the petition, anmy of them re-inserted on 3/29 after originally appearing on 3/21

UPDATE (712PM CDT) Another person just emailed ” I DID NOT sign the “Students First” petition and NEVER will. They are Anti Public Education….and Greedy.”

 UPDATE (658PM CDT) Miami Herald shares similar comment to previous UPDATE, revealing a possible pattern in copying contacts.

“I did NOT join my name to a petition in support of the so-called Parent Empowerment Act,” wrote John Raymaker, of Tallahassee. “Instead, I signed a petition OPPOSING this act. More deceitful, incredibly dishonest tactics!”

UPDATE (651PM CDT) A woman who denied signing remembers signing an anti-parent trigger petition

Scathing Purple Musings Tally

Yes, they did: 18    No, they didn’t: 15

Kathleen McGrory’s story that appeared in the Miami Herald on Friday included revelations that two people on the list of Parent Trigger supporters Michelle Rhee’s StudentsFirst submitted to Lakeland Senator Kelli Stargel never signed the petition. One confirmed that she did.

Scathing Purple Musings has the list and began randomly selecting people on Saturday afternoon by contacting the email address on the petition. As of this morning, 125 (approximately 10 percent) have received emails requesting verification. The tally above includes the 3 people (1-yes; 2-no) McGrory referenced in her story. Five of the email addresses which were all cataloged on March 21st or more recently no longer exist and one person was unable to remember.

Additional information will be updated as they become available, including comments from people who responded. Most recent entries will be at the top.

UPDATE (604PM CDT) Here’s Kathleen McGrory’s update in the Miami Herald.

UPDATE (442PM CDT) Scathing Purple Musings randomly selected another 30 petition signees, bringing the total inquiries to around 160.

UPDATE (4:29PM CDT)  One out-of-state contact in New Jersey confirmed their signature with a simple “I support Studentsfirst legislation”

UPDATE (1158AM CDT) A Floridian who confirmed signing wrote they “would sign it again and supports Parent Trigger “so parents can apply the required pressure to correct and have the rule of law power support to attain the acceptable changes to achieve the desired results.”

UPDATE (1047AM CDT) Another  person who didn’t sign the Rhee-Satrgel petition is Tai Beckensal from Seminole. The professional consultant feels the petition is “a cyber crime in a way” and added  “as far as how any of these people get our names and emails, phone numbers, even addresses, that is easy enough, they can just buy it from marketing groups.”

UPDATE (1034AM CDT) Chip Righter of Delray Beach didn’t sign either and emails “being a single man my entire life, and never married, I would have little interest in a petition seeking any parental position. If someone has rigged this petition, then they must be fired and banned for life to hold any future legislative positions. In the past I have had to pass drug and polygraph tests to get hired for employment. Why should we not demand all politicians to pass annual polygraph examinations to make sure the decisions they are making are in the best interest for American and stop what we all know is their individual financial gain. If politicians were doing nothing wrong why would refuse? American’s think the very lowest of politicians and they have earned their star.

UPDATE (1027AM CDT) From someone who denies signing: “I can’t imagine any situation where I would have signed anything supported by Jeb Bush or Michelle Rhee, to be honest. As to where they could have acquired my information, I am active in some advocacy organizations and perhaps one of those places shares names and addresses?”

UPDATE (1022AM CDT) From a Parent Trigger supporter who signed: “I can confirm that I did sign the petition. I am very disappointed in the school system here and most of the parents I speak to feel the same way. I believe parents have to be more involved  in the education of their children.”

UPDATE (1020AM CDT) From yesterday’s post: Bill Williamson of Palm Bay, Florida denies signing Rhee’s petition saying,  ”to the best of my recollection, I do not recall signing a petition seeking support for the so-called Parent Trigger legislation. I do not support any legislation that would enable charter schools to shoulder their way into our public school systems without open discussion and local or statewide referendums.”

About Bob Sikes

A long time ago and a planet far, far away I was an athletic trainer for the New York Mets. I was blessed to be part of the now legendary 1986 World Series Championship. My late father told me that I'd one day be thankful I had that degree in teaching from Florida State University. He was right and I became twice blesses to become a teacher in the late 1990's. After dabbling with writing about the Mets and then politics, I settled on education.
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11 Responses to Rhee, Stargel Got Some ‘Splainin’ to do About Those Parent Trigger Petition Signatures

  1. 3D Learner says:

    Bob, as always you are providing valuable information. In this case your work is even more valuable. If 10 or 15% of the parents alleged to have signed this petition a month ago did not sign it that would be a story — but 9 out of 19 is a hair raising number.

    Keep up the great work — sharing the results with Kathleen McGrory could make for a very interesting front page story on Monday in Miami, Tallahassee and all over the state

    Keep the pressure on

  2. Excellent work. Just one more instance of Michelle Rhee lying to make it look like her policies a) work and b) have popular support.

  3. Ro says:

    Go Bob GO!!!

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  5. I like it when you use the big hammer Bob!!

  6. gatorbonbc says:

    Interesting… fake signatures on a petition to create a law that would allow petitions like this to determine the fate of our public schools… a good sign of what is to come if our Senators pass this bill. Tell them NO… STOP Parent Trigger !!!

  7. flbusbaby says:

    Wow! Petitions are being introduced to the Florida Senate with bogus signatures? These are supposedly folks supporting the Parent Trigger bill. Who would stoop so low as to do this? And this is a bill that our senators want to pass? A puppet master is obviously pulling way too many strings in Florida. If you are a real person who supports public education, you need to contact your state senator immediately and let them know that Jeb Bush and Michelle Rhee do not speak for you. And hopefully did not add your name to the petitions that do support Parent Trigger! Who knows???

  8. This blood will leave a stain. So simply brilliant, to poll the signators. You already have enough to open a vein. Great work, Bob. Thank you.

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  10. Nancy J. says:

    On what website was the Students First Petition posted–its own site or a petition site?

  11. Lancelot says:

    Damn Good work! These RW scam artists need to do time in prison.

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